howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#1
Can't find the original thread on this but this application on this week's planning list looks much the same as the one put in previously.
18/00221 Erection of a six storey building, comprising flexible Class A1, A2, A3 & A4 uses (ground floor) and flexible Class A1, A2, A3 & A4 uses and B1 (1st Floor) and the formation of 28no flats (2nd - 5th floor); Separate Commercial and residential access; Associated commercial bin storage; Secure residential bin and cycle storage; Gated rear service yard; 4no parking spaces; Communal roof garden at third floor level and associated works.
62 Castle Street, Dover, CT16 1PA
Karlos- Location: Dover
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#3
Turns out to be word for word the same one as on their initial application in February!!
Meanwhile Stagecoach buses have announced on the page that they were planning to relocate their Market Square bus stop to 64/66/68 Market Square and wanted to know if this would affect their plans.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#4
The issue of parking spaces or lack of keeps coming up, an application to convert 2 s/c flats into 5 s/c flats over the top of a restaurant in Bench Street has been lodged.
Not all the prospective residents will be pedestrians.
Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
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#5
Its all fine and well commenting here but unless you lodge a formal comment via the DDC Planning Portal your views will not be considered
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Gary39- Registered: 7 Jul 2017
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#7
24 flats 4 parking spaces.. going to be fun who ever lives there. I have come to the conclusion that DCC have trouble with maths and parking spaces..
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#8
!0 councillors on the planning committee and 8 of them from Deal, Sandwich and out in the sticks.
No objections from ward councillors on the application and support from our town council and Rob Prince formerly of CGI. It appears that the vast majority of future residents and people working on the ground floor will be perfectly happy walking and cycling rather than using a car!!
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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#9
River and also Elmsvale.
Guest 2547- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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#10
howard mcsweeney1 wrote:
No objections from ward councillors on the application and support from our town council and Rob Prince formerly of CGI.
Formerly? Do you know something I don't Howard? He was there in all his pomp at the meeting last month.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#11
You did say that he was no longer a director Ray but was at the recent Western Heights/Farthingloe presentation, which sounds to me like he is freelancing.
Guest 2547- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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#12
He was only a director for a matter of weeks. When quizzed about it, he explained that it was purely a pro tem appointment for cheque signing purposes. Make what you will of that.
I'm sure he remains associated with CGI in some form or other.
Karlos- Location: Dover
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#13
The 5th and 6th floors might be set back so there might not be much effect from street level, but what about the rest of the town?
https://www.kentonline.co.uk/dover/news/images-of-change-203169/
Cllr Mike Eddy said: "We need a computer-generated image to see what impact the height of the building will have on the view of the castle, one of the best medieval ones in Britain.
Perhaps he should read this thread to see his cgi image of the rear.
28 flats and 4 parking spaces
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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#14
The height could certainly be a problem but the lack of parking spaces is just plain daft.
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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#15
Yes more parking is needed.
Weird Granny Slater
- Location: Dover
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#16
You can put in as many objections on the grounds of lack of parking as you like, but it won't make a sniff of a difference to DDC Planning. We lodged plenty of objections up our way when a house-to-flats conversion was proposed in an area already overcome with cars. DDC dismissed them all out of hand, as the conversion itself did not create a new parking problem. In other words, if a parking problem already exists DDC will not entertain any objections. Given that virtually everyone and his dog has at least one car nowadays, I think you'll find that areas with no parking problems are thin on the ground, which gives DDC carte blanche to give the nod to pretty much any scheme without giving parking any consideration at all.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#17
I thought planning guidelines were that each new housing unit should have the equivalent of 1.5 parking spaces or similar.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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#18
So did I Howard, obviously DDC do not give a toss about those sensible guidelines.
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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#19
I see aa Application for a house Folkestone road converted to an HMO.This weeks planning list.
Gary39- Registered: 7 Jul 2017
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#20
They build houses on the Hovertel site on Snargate street a couple of years ago with no provision for residential parking. Parking along there was a nightmare already.