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  ROGER;
  You realy need to move away from that joke, as the issue is far wider than that as you are aware.
  far more complex.
  
  With regard to integration, we should also look at this in a wider picture, we should not blame immigrants or whatever the term is these days for not intergrating when locals have gone out of there way, not to make these people welcome, or discouraged any intergration.
  
  Whilst on the council intergration did come up many times and groups of immigrants tried to integrate but they came up against massive opposition from local groups.
  
  Thats not to say there shouldn't be more intergration, but in more general terms we have a society that in these days people look after number 1 things like street parties a thing of the past, community spirit etc.
  
  many community groups try to keep the community spirit going and do a good job.
  
  
  so in my humble view the problem is far wider than is proposed in the original post

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