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    GaryC - No-one blames the immigrants. I certainly do not, I blame our government for its open door policies and it would be wrong to blame people who just take advantage of our stupidity.

    You also miss my point. I am saying that the 98% should not be here at all, well at least most of them should not. The reason why they (plus the other 2% plus others who are not themselves on benefit but are in jobs British people might take) are here now is because of the changes made in 1997 that opened the floodgates as part of a deliberate policy that never should have been enacted. It is nothing to do with them being here legitimately under the current rules, its the current rules that are wrong.

    Bern - you suggested that previously, Andrew read what I read and we clearly thought the same.

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