£250 Billion to Throw Away - plus the extras
- 5 May 2013 02:23228178The F-35 is planned to be produced in the number of 2500, at a cost of £100 million each. That gives a total of £250 billion.
Add to this the operational expenses, including spare parts, ammunition and missiles, and petrol.
We could actually be talking here of £500 billion to be thrown away on the F-35.
The plane is planned to be used by the USA, Britain, Canada, Italy, the Netherlands, Turkey, Australia, Denmark and Norway.
Then we have the two queen Elizabeth-class aircraft carriers Britain is building, at a cost of many billions of pounds, and already well over double the original budget estimated for these two vessels.
Of-course I was thinking queen Elizabeth was supposed to be the head of the Commonwealth - half the world, and that British governments had given almost all Britain's production plant to China and the Far East in general in return for unemployment and trade deficit.
Evidently all this wasn't enough, they still feel the need to build four nuclear submarines armed with nuclear missiles and to purchase these F-35 planes at £100 million a piece.
Not to mention the other expensive warplanes and war machinery that Britain and so many other countries - allied and less - are building now and plan to produce in the future.
Were we not supposed to be allies of China, having given them all our electronic and textile production?
All we got was Gideon and his silly briefcase and a very large bill for more war effort!
Who's paying for all this silly nonsense? Us the bankrupt populace led by inept politicians who have flung away our industrial production and are about to uproot our last remaining farms and woods too, to import everything from China and Bangladesh and India, but still in need of spending uncouth sums on arms and weapons.
To fight WHO?
http://news.sky.com/story/1086720/philip-hammond-unsure-about-f-35-orderChanters, Drums and Drones Potty Time http://youtu.be/99fMqpjnXYA
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5 May 2013 08:20228191Maybe the answer is not to protect ourselves with up to date weapons etc and go back to bows and arrows.
On second thoughts no military at all would save us billions.-----------------------------------------------------------------------
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5 May 2013 08:54228198It is a difficult area with so many weapons held by the UK and other countries also facing war heads against each other.
The cost alone is one thing
but the number of these things facing us all
and the danger of the outcome is quite frightening
its quite a dilemaALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - 5 May 2013 12:45228215But I'd still like to know who the perceived would-be enemy is.
The West trades with Russia and imports gas and oil - in particular gas, from Russia.
Most of our industrial production was transferred to China.
My point is, what did we get out of it in return, which country is supposed to be the reason for such a scale of weapons that Western governments feel they need?
You don't just hand over your economy in return for nothing! Didn't we at least get a peace treaty from China?
So there are some questions that need answering here.Chanters, Drums and Drones Potty Time http://youtu.be/99fMqpjnXYA
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5 May 2013 16:05228227Many countries pose a threat Alexander
where have you been???ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - 5 May 2013 16:56228237Which countries pose a threat to Britain, Keith?
Adding the 2,500 F-35 warplanes that a number of allied Western countries intend to use (see list in post 1), to the thousands of other warplanes that these same countries plan to operate, and adding these to the thousands more warplanes that other Western and allied countries have planned to build, such as Germany and France, which are not included in the list on post 1,
we get to a list of war material that goes into the trillions of pounds.
Now add the cost of warships, missiles, nuclear submarines and nuclear missiles, and army equipment.
These are the allied countries of the West, not counting Russian, China, India and many others.
So my question is, which countries pose a threat to us.
Please give a coherent answer, Keith, not a vague comment.
Why are my taxes going on all this war machinery? I can't afford it!
Where does UKIP stand on all this? And Socialist(?) Labour?
The Tories said we're all in this together. Well I for one am not!
I wish to make known that I do not agree with this.
No-one has told me who the enemies are supposed to be.
I believe in nations living in peace and not hating each other.
So I expect some proper explanation.Chanters, Drums and Drones Potty Time http://youtu.be/99fMqpjnXYA
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5 May 2013 17:11228239I think you are in cloud cuckoo land if you feel the UK would not be under threat id it done away with its many weapons
UKIP is in favour of increasing the NAVY and war heads so that answers thatALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - 5 May 2013 19:04228253No, Keith, it doesn't answer anything.
Firstly, I'm not in cloud cucu land, secondly I'm not in UKIP.
I have no reply as to who the perceived enemy nation is.
And I'm still waiting for input from members of other parties.
Surely, to require an explanation of party policies on this issue is a fair request.
You can't be speaking up for all parties here, Keith!Chanters, Drums and Drones Potty Time http://youtu.be/99fMqpjnXYA
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5 May 2013 19:13228260earth to alex,can you tell us what planet your on. - 5 May 2013 19:17228263alex does make a good point - who is likely to attack us?
the countries that we send our troops into are not a threat to us, usually we get involved in order to help keep peace in a region which always tends to backfire.
we are a nett importer and always will be so i cannot see why any nation would attack its customers and lose business. - 5 May 2013 19:26228265some people do talk a lot of clap trap.
No one is threatening to attack us, it never will be a threat again since the 1940's.
air superiority rules overall now and will be for the future, ground forces will be the last resort.
Think about it.
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5 May 2013 19:45228271so theres not a threat at the mo
but if we reduce our arms as alexander suggestsALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - 5 May 2013 20:08228284So in other words, international policies for the present and the future are to be based on spending trillions of pounds on weapons, as suspicious countries remain suspicious of each other, without a need for anyone to specify which country is actually threatening us.
This is contrary to my Christian Faith, it is contrary to my financial situation too, as I cannot afford it.
While awaiting some clarification from party members on here, such as the UKIP chairman Ian, I shall have to prepare to make my case known to Kent County Council: that in Kent we are paying taxes to the Treasury in London for nuclear submarines, nuclear missiles and warplanes, thus jeopardising our present and future Prosperity.Chanters, Drums and Drones Potty Time http://youtu.be/99fMqpjnXYA
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