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    With you all the way there Andy, but let me also include a hand held speed gun pointing at the bend from Barton road into Frith road. Just an interesting bit to add to this thread, our first house was in Barton road, which is where the light`s are before you go round into Frith road, so I have a good knowledge of traffic speed for that area from 30 plus year`s ago. I`ll also hasten to add that I`ve always driven with the speed of the traffic, and many times that can easily exceed any speed limit.

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