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From Dover around 2 hours 20 mins, so even slower than Charing Cross; from Deal just over 2 hours, so less than to Charing Cross. (Dover to Gravesend is 2 hours dead). In the peaks, the Dover trains run from/to Ashford about 10 minutes after the Canterbury West trains, so that should ease the overcrowding. At the moment trains combine/divide at Ashford, so journey times will fall a little.
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