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    Actually I agree. Major crimes that have major personal individual and corporate impacts need the option of removal from the mainstream as much for the protection of the public as for punishment, but in reality for both. But that also needs to be supported by realistic tools for re-entry to society when the time comes or it defeats the longer term object of stopping them doing it again. That is not only a waste of time it is a waste of money. Investment in this has to be worth it. Not a hand out to crims and ex-crims, but investment in the organisations and individuals who can actually make a difference.

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