Guest 664- Registered: 23 Mar 2008
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So the blockade-fixated French are now planning to export their tactics to this country.
A blockade of the Port of Dover is planned for Saturday.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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jolly good show,croisants all round then.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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joking apart,according to a bbc news report last night.[22/7] its british drivers that will be protesting and not French.it seems justifiable to do so as any driver being caught with illeagles in the back of there lorry are being fined 2000£ a head.reports are saying that its not safe to park up or fill up with derv in the calias area any more.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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They should blockade Calais, not Dover, as that is where the real fault lies. But I suppose Dover is a softer target- geography means that you need fewer trucks and we don't have the CRS.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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I thought it was our own drivers but nothing is mentioned in our local newspaper sites.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Charlie maintains this is a problem for the French, I told him ages ago they'll make it our problem and look what's happening now. The French have totally outmanouevered our govt and Charlie is like a rabbit in the headlights.
Our latest response is to give the French £12m over 4 years to build a fence, pathetic. Why not use that money to recruit more border force staff and man our borders properly. Lets be clear, these people are not asylum seekers, if they were they would have applied at the first country of entry.
I have massive sympathy for the truckers, why on earth should they have to put up with the dreadful situation in Calais. Our local MP has been ineffective and as a result our local economy will suffer.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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that's how it came across on bbc southeast last night.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Ok so we recruit more border staff to stop these financial immigrants but how will that help the situation over in France.
These people will still be making their way across the whole of France to Calais. They will still be trying to get into this country so the situation will be exactly the same, the only difference being we will have more people stopping them coming here.
i also sympathise with the innocent lorry drivers who are caught up in a situation not of their making.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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The problem will not go away whilst the present system of catching illegals the letting them go continues, this applies to both us and the French.
It will be costly in the short term for us to send them to detention centres indefinitely but word will then spread back to the countries whence they came that we are not the easy touch that they think now.
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Correct Howard, its about the message we communicate, at the moment the message is:
Get to UK somehow or other and you're sorted.
That's why they traipse across Europe to get here, they're not asylum seekers. Protect the borders, refuse entry and jail traffickers for life. This situation is only going to get worse through weak govt
Guest 715- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Clandestines were very often put back on the same Ferry they arrived on, HMI refusal papers served within the hour, that was until John Major signed us up to a thing called the Dublin agreement, it has gone downhill ever since.
Audere est facere.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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france and other countrys should have detention centers on the med coast.and not here
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Not sure the French could do that Brian. most seem to arrive in Italy, once there they do not encounter a border point until the channel ports.
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Martin is correct, Major sold us down the river, every govt since has made it worse.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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build them down that way,then round the buggers up stick them in and process then then deport howard.simples.
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Is that labour party policy Brian?
Guest 767- Registered: 30 Aug 2012
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Re post 16, Brian, why do you want to deport Howard Simples?
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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david,its not.but it might be ukips.
phil,no not at the moment lol