Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Yes taking away the only play area in apart of the town which is two miles away for the town centre with the main road that has 1000s of HGV lorry going up and down next to it each day +400ft cliffs is a very wrong move what and how are the young mums going to stop the kids from running off etc they to take them to a safe area to play.
And to replace it with flats is again very wrong.
There are ways round it will cost funding but not so much as they are saying.Later in the day I will be putting my own views forward and a plan that would help both the D.D.C. and the public that live there.
I know no one ever takes up or any notice of what I say or have said over many years.
But you never know there is always a first for most things.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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rather confused on this one as i previously thought that the play area and new flats were different sites.
we are told that the facilities in the play area were not safe and that residents were invited to put forward suggestions as to getting a new one.
surely local councillors would have known this was coming and campaigned against it?
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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My understanding is the flats are going on the site of the old pub.The play area was discussed many years ago I visited the site ,tenants were consulted.Howard is correct DDC Councillors knew that the play equipment would be removed when it was no longer fit for purpose.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i seem to remember the king lear pub site being ear marked for the flats sue.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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howard,they are separate sites.
as for the king lear site,it looks like its been sold as two separate plots.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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thanks brian, just to clarify things - the play area is still there minus equipment and there are no present plans to build anything there?
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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its been turfed over howard.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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As you can see in the seafront report about the running is also what can be done at Aycliffe the equipment is from the age of 8 to 88 all comes with the British standard specifications all made in England and is the best in the world it does not need turf if the site does not have it
Comes with its own surfacing with the need be .
All fixed in the ground and will and cannot be pulled out.
You can add a kinder garden play ground to it with its own equipment so all the family can have great fun and workout all the year round free.
You can add a fence round it again that can come if it but most to not need it.
And they do not need that much room for a good lie out.
Now the funding and for what you can get it does not cost that much a small one will cost about £25000 you can start with less and add to it or go for a bigger one.
There is funding out there to help you ,I will not go into all that now but the very big one just outside Dover they got £49.500 funding and with the help of the D.D.C. officer that is working part-time with the out-side gyms and it was her that got what you see on the front.
My meal is waiting for me but just to add if anyone needs to know more about them please phone or come and see me I can help.Thank you.
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
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Don't think it's anything to do with funding, it's a case of agreement on location on siting as I understand. It's up to the locals to decide given present day requirements. I'm sure somebody will correct me if I'm wrong.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I think you are right Mr Watkins.
As you might know I have had a meeting sometime ago with your part-time officer and so I know there is support over this from the D.D.C. but she is on long team sick and I am sorry because she is a great help and worker.I have made a offer to join up with the D,D,C council on this one for free as I will have more free time on my hands because I am packing up soon my last council work.
I have been working on getting outside gyms into parishs etc for over two years now.
And have been to see the Warmer Parish clerk about helping them to get one.
But sorry to say that the D,D,C, never got back to me about me putting in some free time up there working on Outside Gyms only .
But it might happen one day in the mean time I just keep on trying on my own.
But getting back to Aycliffe there is lots of open ground that can be used I have been up and had alook.
Mr Watkins you must agree that they need some kind of outlet local for the whole familys and my plan would meet with that.
Again it needs their own town and district cllrs to take it up
I would only be to please to help in anyway .Thank you.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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what is wrong with the present location paul?
fair enough the equipment was not up to scratch and was taken away.
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
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Howard, I think it may have been the isolation of the site. I understand there may have been incidents there in the past.
As I stated in an earlier post I'll stand corrected if that is not the case. Local councillors will know.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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one local dtc counciler is fuming,the ddc one is keeping stum.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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that is what is gnawing away at me brian, jim hood would have known all about this as paul states in post 12.
why wasn't this put to local residents so that they had a chance to come up with an alternative plan?
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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again its a case of deaf ears,the nearest play park is now pencester gardens.can you imadgin a 5 year walking to it from aycliffe with the traffic whizzing down the a20 at 60 plus mph.
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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Post 12 It was the location.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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sue,to be honest there where two play parks,one was left to rot,a safe one at that location,the second whipped away with no warning.so the under 10's now have no play areas with swings etc.and besides lots of resonsable parents took there kids there.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Mr Dixon I must go with you on this one if it had been a blue seat and not a save red one it would not have got ;like that in the first place and if it had thy would have replaced it. Same can be said for Folkestone RD who at one time even had over £200.000 of funding give to them for a new rebuild but still it did not go ahead all this is fact and The D.D.C. must hold their hands up on both of them sorry I have no wish to keep on to DDC about this but it is down to them to replace both Folkestone rd and Aylciffe with a outside family or playground area.
Watch the reds do it if they get in but I will not be voting one way or the other.
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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All Councllors are aware of the play strategy. Tenants were consulted.In the villages the Parish Councils run their play areas.With Aycliffe it would be the Town Council.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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and the town council wanted to keep the play park sue.